[Cialug] How normal is it to ask for w2s and pay stubs as part of the interview process?

[David Champion]

They should pay you what you're worth based on your experience and market
rates, not how little they think they can pay you based on whatever you're
currently doing - which may not be relevant if the job is significantly
different... i.e. what if someone took a hiatus and went to work at a
non-profit?

I'd let them know how you feel about it, if they don't agree then maybe it
wasn't the right job for you.

-dc

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Its not an "honesty test" when they qualify it with "I want to make
> sure your starting salary isn't more than what you made in the past".
>
> :) Dave
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Dave Weis <djweis at sjdjweis.com> wrote:
> > It's partly an honesty test. If I tell you I'm making 80k as a level one
> > help desk but actually making 40k it is not a good start to our
> > relationship.
> >
> > Anyway, not that uncommon. If you're uncomfortable then decline the
> request.
> >
> > On Jun 28, 2016 10:57 AM, "Josh More" <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
> >
> >> If you have to take the job, do what they say, but keep looking.  I
> agree
> >> that this one is manipulative and not worth any long term plans.
> >>
> >> -Josh
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > My reaction to that would be to tell them where to shove their "job".
> >> That
> >> > smells WAY to much like game playing and manipulation right from the
> >> > outset.  Please realize though I have a very low tolerance for mind
> >> games.
> >> > Your situation/mind set may be different.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:49 AM, c <cbpurcell at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I've been flat out told that they want the w2s to make sure that the
> >> > hiring
> >> > > salary isn't that much more than what I have made in the past. Which
> >> > creeps
> >> > > me out. You should want to know about the quality of my work, verify
> >> if I
> >> > > can meet and exceed your needs and what salary range I am looking
> for.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I have encountered this as a form of employment verification.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Go ahead and provide them, but redact the actual payment numbers.
> >> The
> >> > > rest
> >> > > > should be the normal data that people need for the employment
> >> process.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If they react negatively to the redacted data, then as Scott says,
> >> > it's a
> >> > > > big red flag and you should disengage from the process.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Josh
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Scott Yates <
> Scott at yatesframe.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > In over 25 years of professional work, I have never heard of
> this.
> >> > It
> >> > > > > might be a good opportunity to re-examine weather you really
> want
> >> to
> >> > > work
> >> > > > > there.  Seems like a BIG red flag to me.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:37 AM, c <cbpurcell at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > It seems pretty out there to me and I don't think I have come
> >> > across
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > > before today, but wanted to check with the community and see
> if
> >> > > others
> >> > > > > have
> >> > > > > > gotten this request before.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > Purcell
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