[Cialug] Mail servers (was: Hostname issue)

Matthew Nuzum newz at bearfruit.org
Tue Dec 2 13:44:55 CST 2014


I love that step 1 is "obtain and install an SSL certificate."

Also saw the link for Citadel there, which brings back nostalgia. Cool to
see that project still going after so long.

Overall, I'd say this discussion has been pretty disappointing, though no
fault to anyone on this list. It just looks like there aren't that many
options for a complete solution. A couple hosted solutions and
roll-your-own solutions are pretty complex. To be fair, it sounds like for
groupware there aren't many standards used across all platforms.

As a matter of fact, the one platform that tends to be universally usable
is Exchange ActiveSync, but I guess you have to license the protocol for
that from Microsoft so it's not a very open-source friendly protocol.

*sigh*

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:

> bit late to the show, but this reader is great for giving to people
> thinking about running their own mail servers:
> https://www.linode.com/docs/email/running-a-mail-server
>
> -theron
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Brian Broughton <Brian at broughtonhome.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I have used\tried Zimbra, the open or free version is finicky. I had
> > nothing but trouble getting the mail client working on Outlook as
> > advertised. First it would work, sync up then fail. But its web mail
> > interface worked, worked well. In addition on version 3.4 and 3.5 the
> samba
> > module would constantly crash bring down the domain and associated
> elements
> > such as logging in, shared directories, etc. Think of it as MS domain
> with
> > crashing AD.
> >
> >  I would argue based on my experience it is not an excellent choice, at
> > least the free version as it is cutting edge and buggy. Support is hit or
> > miss in the forums, depending on the scope of the problem you can get
> good
> > help to no help.
> >
> >  Lastly I was running it on a PC that is 6 years old with an early MSI MB
> > and a AMD based x64 single core processor and 4 GB of RAM, ran just fine
> > with no issues related to the hardware.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >  From: "Matt" <matt at itwannabe.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:41 PM
> > To: "Central Iowa Linux Users Group" <cialug at cialug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Mail servers (was: Hostname issue)
> > Zimbra IS excellent from a user perspective and is very easy to set up
> and
> > get running. BUT, he did mention that he wanted something that could run
> on
> > a modest server, which Zimbra certainly is not. Three or so years ago
> > Zimbra went from requiring at least 2GB of RAM and some minimum processor
> > speed to requiring a 64-bit processor and 4GB of RAM (I think). At that
> > point it went from something you could run on a modest server to
> something
> > that is too big for an affordable VM.
> >
> > Of course, "modest server" and "affordable VM" are things that are
> > completely different for a business than they are for a home user who
> just
> > wants to pull all his data out of the clutches of Google.
> >
> > -- Matt (N0BOX)
> >
> > > On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:47 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Josh More wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've often thought about ways to detangle myself from Google, simply
> on
> > >> the basis that I rely so much on this one vendor. However, the value
> > >> that Google Apps provides is tough to beat. Being able to use email
> and
> > >> a shared calendar on my computer, tablet and phone, as well as a nice
> > >> web GUI is great.
> > >>
> > >> Any suggestions for alternatives? There are hosted Exchange solutions
> > >> which> are similar in price and feature,
> > > Huh? Do you REALLY want everyone to barf?
> > >
> > > ownCloud provides all the fancy stuff, .. we use mailserv for core
> email
> > > servers.
> > >
> > > If you MUST go integrated, Zimbra is excellent.
> > >
> > > Any decent client (Evolution, for example) can easily provide all the
> > > services in one UI, but all are standard so usable separately for
> > phones,
> > > tablets, at al.
> > >
> > > Lee
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