[Cialug] San Francisco in November

jim kraai jimgkraai at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 12:26:46 CDT 2014


op: "i want to do x, for my own reasons.  if anyone wants to do x with me,
let me know."

people: "your reasons are silly, poor, and/or confusing to me, you're wrong
for wanting to do x, you should do y."

jimk: "very sad pattern around here, *sigh*"



On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Kenneth Younger <kyounger at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nevermind the relative risk injury and death of flying versus driving.
> On Aug 30, 2014 11:30 AM, "Rob Cook" <rdjcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The math is pretty damming for driving. From Des Moines, assuming that
> > someone were to go along, it's 1800mi one way to San Francisco. Assuming
> > that the car gets at least 30mpg and the current national average cost
> of a
> > gallon of gas, today, is $3.43 we can crunch some numbers. 3600mi round
> > trip divided by 30mpg = 120gal for the entire trip, divide that by 3/4
> and
> > you get 90gals for the passenger to cover so that is going to cost
> $308.70
> > round trip.
> >
> > Kayak sez... Roundtrip flight from DSM to SFO leaving 10/31 returning
> 11/3
> > is $333.
> >
> > And then there is this, the flights all said are around 15hrs travel time
> > vs 52hrs in a car.
> >
> > All that adds up to a big no thanks, I'd fly.
> >
> >  Oh and if you flew from MSP instead, the cost is a wash, $308 round
> trip.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM, kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Didn't the Mythbusters do a segment on this recently? They tested the
> > > "myth" that any trip under 400 miles would be quicker by car. I believe
> > > they confirmed it. That means anything over 400 miles will be faster by
> > > plane. I fully realize that faster doesn't mean cheaper, but it may be
> > > worth doing the math to compare on a trip from MN to CA. . .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Anthony Jeffries <
> > > ajeffri at angrywithunicorns.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I second this. Fly or take Amtrak. Driving across the Rockies (even
> > going
> > > > through AZ and NM) at that time of year can be difficult. I had to do
> > > > almost the exact same trip and got delayed *twice* by snowstorms, and
> > > even
> > > > when we could drive it was often slow and treacherous. Fortunately,
> my
> > > > employer was flexible about vacation time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/29/14 10:22 AM, Aaron Porter wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You're probably better off flying. Having done the drive a couple of
> > > >> times.
> > > >> Fares into San Jose don't look too horrible from MSP.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Brian Wood <woodbrian77 at gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  There's a meeting:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.meetbsd.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> out in San Francisco that I'm interested in.  I would provide
> > > >>> a vehicle and expect you to pay for 3/4 of the gas and help
> > > >>> drive.  If you are interested, please let me know.  I live in
> > > >>> St. Paul, Minnesota, but could drive through Iowa and pick
> > > >>> you up somewhere.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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