[Cialug] Nagios vs. OpenNMS vs. ??

Tue Aug 31 18:41:17 CDT 2010

Josh,
Thanks, this is quite useful and applicable to my job situation.  We have
used Nagios successfully for well over 1 year.  On the other hand the
company - which is primarily a Windows shop - want to change to IPMonitor
because it is pure Windows.  Do you (or anyone) have any IPMonitor
experience?  Much appreciated.
-joseph

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Josh More
<MoreJ at alliancetechnologies.net>wrote:

>  It doesn't matter.
>
> Really.  I've used lots of monitoring solutions.  If you want to find
> reasons they suck, you'll find them.  If you want to find reasons that
> they're awesome, you'll find them.  They key is taking the time to learn
> whatever system you choose and set it up right.  If you go after monitoring
> half-assed, you'll hate it, whatever it is.
>
> Nagios is scriptable.  You can do whatever you want with it, but the key is
> "nagios is scriptable".  It's going to take work.  The same is true for mon,
> smokeping, ZenOSS etc etc etc.  The open source solutions are all going to
> take work to get them where you need them.  The "professional" systems will
> take work too, but they tend to have a nice candy coating that makes them
> look easier and then gets in your way later.
>
> The way it usually goes is that most people can do everything they need
> with mon, but once they start there they realize "oh my, mon takes a lot of
> work", so they start looking at things like Cacti and ZenOSS, work with them
> for a few months to a year and realize  "oh my, these take a lot of work, if
> I'm going to do this work, I might as well just use nagios".  Then they play
> with nagios for a few years and think "well, I have a handle on nagios, but
> my new people don't", and start throwing money at IBM Director / What's Up
> Gold or any of the many "pro" systems.  Then everything falls apart because
> the new people look at these high dollar systems and think  "oh my, these
> take a lot of work".   Since they're not you, they don't care to put in the
> work and you're out years of time and lots of money.
>
> So really, it doesn't matter.  It's going to a PITA, and it's going to take
> care and handholding to do it right.  If you don't have what it takes to do
> it right, don't even bother starting.
>
> That said, I prefer Nagios... largely because the Nagios community doesn't
> lie to itself and realizes that monitoring takes work.  They'll help you out
> if you need it.
>
>  -Josh More, CISSP, GIAC-GSLC, GIAC-GCIH, RHCE, NCLP
> morej at alliancetechnologies.net
> 515-245-7701
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> *From:* cialug-bounces at cialug.org [cialug-bounces at cialug.org] on behalf of
> Kenneth Younger [kyounger at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 09:26
>
> *To:* Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Cialug] Nagios vs. OpenNMS vs. ??
>
>  I'm actually looking into this myself, but I have a much smaller number
> of servers (5-7 probably at most), and I need the ability to script off of
> events that occur, like reaching certain maximum thresholds, etc. For me,
> the ease of utilizing the API is just as important as the effectiveness of
> the monitoring. Which of these solutions should I take a look at first? I
> had been planning on just using Nagios.
>
> (That table on wikipedia is about has helpful as a bowl of peanuts.)
>
> Thanks,
> -Kenny
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Joseph Pietras <joseph.pietras at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Tom Pohl <tom at tcpconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone followed the fork from Nagios to Icinga? Any benefits or
>>> drawbacks from the switch?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Christopher R. Rhodes wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 08/30/10 12:54, L. V. Lammert wrote:
>>> >> Doing a clean slate design replacing Big Brother for monitoring about
>>> 75
>>> >> bunch of remote backup servers, .. has anyone seen a decent feature
>>> >> comparison published anywhere?
>>> >>
>>> >>      Lee
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > While you are looking, consider this one:
>>> https://labs.omniti.com/labs/reconnoiter
>>> >
>>> > Theo's done a spectacular job with it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I'll +1 both nagios and opennms.  I have used and loved them both
>>> though am currently more aligned with Nagios.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > crr
>>> > arreyder at apache.org
>>> >
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