[Cialug] Windows Scripting

Dave J. Hala Jr. dave at 58ghz.net
Tue Jan 30 13:51:12 CST 2007


I'm also doing some of the same, for the same reasons.

On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 13:42, David Champion wrote:
> Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:29 -0600, Todd Walton wrote:
> >> I'm looking at a couple of Microsoft Press books on Windows scripting.
> >>  From the introductions of each:
> > 
> >> To be fair I'll mention two things I like about Windows scripting that
> >> I haven't yet found on Linux.  Both are file formats:
> >>
> >> 1) Windows Script File, .wsf
> >>
> >> It's a script (anything that the Windows Script Host will support,
> >> which is VBScript, JScript, Perl, etc.) wrapped in an XML file.  
> > 
> >> 2) HTML Application, .hta
> >>
> >> This is da bomb.  HTA files are scripts wrapped in HTML.  
> >> ... What you get, in effect, is a script
> >> with a graphical user interface.  ... I'm not sure how
> >> I'd do the equivalent on Linux, without actually running a web server.
> > 
> > Yeah, I've used windows scripting too, it is quite convenient. But at
> > the same time, it's very easy to do things that are very insecure. I
> > once wrote a script for doing batch conversion of images. A few weeks
> > later, the "I love you" virus came out that used many of the same
> > techniques (and, ironically, completely ruined the many gigs of images
> > I'd converted previously).
> > 
> > I've noticed that in recent years, especially since Windows XP, security
> > has become a big deal and has therefore taken a lot of the simplicity
> > out of writing scripts for Windows.
> > 
> > On Linux, have you see the various "dialog" tools?
> > 
> > And, regarding the HTML interface, have you played with GWT (Google Web
> > Toolkit)? It lets you easily create java based web applications, but
> > when you debug the apps, instead of launching in a web-browser, it
> > launches them in a self contained application window. I can't help but
> > wonder if there will be a way to deploy apps like that. That would be
> > cool.
> > 
> > I think it's ironic that Microsoft came out with PowerShell or Monad or
> > Gonad or whatever it's called. It really borrows from the strengths of
> > Unix shells and gives Windows a very useful shell and scripting
> > environment. Wikipedia says that with exchange 2007, all administration
> > is done via command line (using monad) and the guis simply execute the
> > command line programs. How original!
> > 
> 
> I've been doing some scripting in PHP, mostly for tasks involving 
> back-end processing for PHP / mysql driven web sites. It's nice because 
> I can use common include files, functions and classes between the web 
> and script programs. Very handy for doing file import / exports, or data 
> maintenance scripts that you want to run via cron.
> 
> I know Tim P. and his team have done a lot of PHP cli scripting for his 
> GForge product, like the installer script, for instance.
> 
> I haven't done much with it lately, but there is a project called PHP 
> GTK - http://gtk.php.net/ (I stopped using it when there was a lag 
> between the current versions of PHP for the web and for PHP-GTK)- that 
> lets you do GTK GUI interfaces driven by PHP code.
> 
> I've thought about starting to use that again. The attraction being that 
> I can then share code between web, cli, and gui apps.
> 
> -dc
> 
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