[Cialug] Laughable

Lee cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:11:49 -0600


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RE: [Cialug] LaughableI realize this is a little off the topic. But I need
to say it.

One amazing thing about the whole cost of training and support argument.
I've seen first hand what going to a new version of Windows for instance can
cost in training and support. If you follow many vendors prefered upgrade
path. You send your techs and engineers to classes and get the certs for
every major upgrade. Yes it may involve a far lesser learning curve
migrating from one version to another of the same platform. But to say that
there is such a difference becuase of those costs, isn't fairly comparing
the true (overall) price tag. Yes it may be true that training could
actually cost more than getting this OS on x number of seats. But what
happens when you need to add training or additional support to the other
guys product as well?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On Behalf Of
Korver, Aaron
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:42 PM
  To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
  Subject: RE: [Cialug] Laughable


  I don't think he is talking about the software, but the price of a
knowledge base to run and administrate the system.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: admin [mailto:admin@c0wzftp.com]
  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:53 PM
  > To: cialug@cialug.org
  > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Laughable
  >
  >
  > oh my. my favorite line from that article:
  >
  > Additionally, he said that Linux is not significantly cheaper than
  > alternative operating systems.
  >
  > anyone else smell the smoke? i think a fire's on its way.
  > this article is
  > just too hot to let go.
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: "Lee" <leeh@csi-rics.com>
  > To: "Cialug@Cialug.Org" <cialug@cialug.org>
  > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:31:35 -0600
  > Subject: [Cialug] Laughable
  >
  > > Ok, lets all give up and go home. A group of Industry heavyweights
  > > declares
  > > Linux isn't ready for the enterprise!
  > >
  > >
  > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39191533,00.htm
  > >
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