[Cialug] Freese Notis has VOIP

Jon Clemons cialug@cialug.org
Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:45:50 -0500


Are you still doing the TalkISP VOIP?
Actually, your classification of LLC's as fly by night companies
seems a bit off base. There are legitimate business and Tax reasons
for LLC's, S Corps and C Corporations. Having started and owned
businesses with all three of those classifications I know
the pros and cons of each.
 It also seems your taking the comment a bit personal.
I was merely saying I thought the intrastate rates were a
bit high considering you can can buy wholesale long distance
blocks or long distance T-1's with rates between 1-3 cents
a minute. Not to mention on my current Qwest plan I only pay 5 cents
a minute for intrastate long distance.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Arthur" <linux@agencius.com>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Freese Notis has VOIP


>
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Jon Clemons wrote:
>
>> I would say their pricing point seems a bit high considering this.
>
> Well pricing in most cases depends on how to create a sustainable 
> business.
>
> In capitalism, you are welcome to compete at a lower price and see if you 
> stay in business or go out of business at that lower price point.
>
> No vender is doing a favor for their customers by pricing low and then in 
> the meantime running into a crunch.
>
> Welcome to capitalism at its best.
>
> Freese-Notis has been in business longer than most of these players for 
> Internet or VOIP by a great deal.  The original business was founded in 
> 1973, it is an Iowa Corporation (not a fly by night LLC in some far away 
> state) and has done Internet services since 1994.  Provides DSL, T-1's, 
> T-3's etc.  Voice over the Internet protocol was launched in 2004 to 
> paying customers.  The brand of our VOIP reflects that we are an 
> established Iowa company.
>
> That was before domain names even cost money or Network Solutions had much 
> to say about it.  Maybe someone out there really generous will buy a TLD 
> and do free registrations without lots of the pre-qualifications for money 
> again.
>
>> Long distance interstate calls will be billed at 4.9 cents per minute. 
>> Intrastate calls can vary depending upon where you call, in some cases 10 
>> cents per minute or more depending on local tariff charges.
>
> When the LATA's officially fall, the
> sustainable business price will likely go down as well for VOIP from 
> Freese-Notis.
>
> It is really that simple.
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan C. Smith" <smith@ipmvs.com>
>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:18 PM
>> Subject: [Cialug] Freese Notis has VOIP
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I just got off the phone with Tony at Freese and they are getting into 
>>> VOIP
>>> in a big way.
>>>
>>> 'http://www.iowatalk.com/'
>>>
>>> They are also terminating 515 numbers at this time.
>>> It would seem that they have already nailed the price point too.
>>>
>>> -Nate
>>>
>>> Nathan Smith  McKee, Voorhees & Sease, P.L.C.  515.288.3667
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