[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
Jon Clemons
cialug@cialug.org
Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:20:18 -0500
Well if it is the full PRI it could service at least 100 people and likely
more depending
on how ratios worked out.
----- Original Message -----
From: "n00b" <admin@c0wzftp.com>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
> $750? wow and you call vonage pricey? how many people can you service for
> $750/month?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Weis <djweis@sjdjweis.com>
> To: cialug@cialug.org
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:58:00 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Jonathan Bailey wrote:
>> > 1. Hardware. You'd be looking at a 2Ghz-ish box with at least a gig
>> of
>> > memory.
>> > 2. Bandwidth. Marshallnet - I think they have some to spare :-D
>> Don't know
>> > if it would be at the colo rate or what.
>> > 3. Termination/local DIDs - probably get a fractional T1 from qwest,
>> but can
>> > you get DSM DIDs in Marshalltown, etc?
>> > 4. LD - Probably go through IAXtel or similar - ~2cents/min or so, I
>> think.
>>
>> The box wouldn't have to be quite that beefy but probably close. I will
>> offer the service if we have enough people pre signup. Monthly cost
>> will
>> be about $750 for me to do it including the qwest circuit and getting
>> it
>> to my location.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> > Nathan C. Smith
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:25 AM
>> > To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
>> > Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area
>> ISPs)
>> >
>> >
>> > So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
>> > a machine,
>> > a place to host it
>> > Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS a small race of
>> elf-like
>> > genius computer operators to manage it.
>> >
>> > People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse
>> or
>> > Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to
>> skirt
>> > billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to
>> connect? IAX
>> > and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
>> >
>> > There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware
>> is any
>> > different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded
>> with
>> > IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple
>> hosts like
>> > you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good
>> IAXy
>> > provisioning tool available.
>> >
>> > Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't
>> think of
>> > it right now either.
>> >
>> > The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the
>> capabilities
>> > of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
>> >
>> > -Nate
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
>> > To: cialug@cialug.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a
>> project
>> > that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national
>> or
>> > international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
>> >
>> > I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great
>> success
>> > with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
>> > them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can
>> have
>> > an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
>> >
>> > The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no
>> security
>> > on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it!
>> Maybe
>> > it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but
>> I've
>> > never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
>> > internet just fine!
>> >
>> > One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
>> > connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've
>> also
>> > trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
>> > roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
>> >
>> > -Tom
>> >
>> > On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing
>> their
>> >> money
>> >> at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with
>> Asterisk.
>> >> There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
>> >> account
>> >> balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
>> >> proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
>> >> Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
>> >>
>> >> Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had
>> mixed
>> >> results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
>> >>
>> >> Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
>> >> in the
>> >> future.
>> >>
>> >> -Nate
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
>> >> To: cialug@cialug.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first
>> line.
>> >>
>> >> In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
>> >> (http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected
>> to
>> >> normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
>> >> my asterisk pbx.
>> >>
>> >> I've used VoicePulse's connect service
>> >> (http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
>> >> unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
>> >>
>> >> -Tom
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check
>> the
>> >>> configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
>> >>> supports.
>> >>>
>> >>> i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
>> >>> was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just
>> disconnect
>> >>> qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid
>> of
>> >>> any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord
>> into
>> >>> your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone
>> that
>> >>> was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl
>> i'm
>> >>> not sure how you'd do
>> >>> this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in
>> your
>> >>> home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no
>> need
>> >>> to
>> >>> run extra wires.
>> >>>
>> >>> hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to
>> do
>> >>> a better setup look in vonages help pages.
>> >>>
>> >>> neal
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
>> >>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
>> >>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>> >>>
>> >>>> Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
>> >>>> service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
>> >>>> options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration.
>> The
>> >>>> problem I've run into is
>> >>>> having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
>> >>>> According to
>> >>>> the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone
>> adapter
>> >>>> per
>> >>>> phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter.
>> I
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a
>> phone
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> it.
>> >>>> The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
>> >>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>> >>>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
>> >>>> means you
>> >>>> aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business..
>> Embarassing
>> >>>> call to
>> >>>> tech support..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when
>> I
>> >>>> move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone
>> DSL
>> >>>> or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jon
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
>> >>>> Behalf
>> >>>> Of Tim Perdue
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
>> >>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
>> >>>>> Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
>> >>>> ago. At
>> >>>> that
>> >>>>> time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still
>> can't,
>> >>>> but it
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>> much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea
>> of
>> >>>> switching to
>> >>>>> DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
>> >>>>> pissed
>> >>>> off)
>> >>>> enough
>> >>>>> I guess.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
>> >>>> DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
>> >>>> VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
>> >>>> apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
>> >>>> house lights dim.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
>> >>>> finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tim
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